Thursday, January 3, 2008

Conflicting News On Santana

There was also conflicting news regarding the Mets. Peter Gammons says he thinks the Mets are attempting to stockpile talent with which to trade for Santana. John Heyman thinks the Mets are offering Fernando Martinez, Deolis Guerra, Carlos Gomez, and Kevin Mulvey for Johan Santana. Seems strange that the Twins haven't taken the deal then.

On the other hand, Mike Francesca is saying that the Twins are demanding Jose Reyes, which will never happen. And to wrap things up, Keith Law is saying that the Mets would never trade Fernando Martinez for Santana, given that there's only one year left on his current contract.

Given the multitude of Mets news, and their conflicting nature, it's likely that some of this is misinformation. The Twins might be trying to make it look like a deal is eminent, in order to get the Red Sox or Yankees to increase their offers. However, there have already been two false reports of eminent deals, one to the Yankees, then one to the Red Sox. And to this point, no one's increased their offers.

Hank Steinbrenner also weighed in on Santana. He implied that Yankees offer of Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera and Jeff Marquez could be back on the table. Although, there are no indications that the Yankees are any more interested in a deal. According to Hank the Yankees have "already made the best offer". He's likely referring to the Yankees offer of Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera and Jeff Marquez which is in reality is somewhat weak.


Kevin said...

Somewhatt weak? First all It's all speculation at this point. List of players that you mention was a specualtion by Ny Papers. You don't know what Yankees are offering to Twins behind the scenes..

Talk about weak deal . Coco Crisp and below average pitching prospects. This is my opinion..

Ethan Michaels said...

Kevin, multiple sources have all reported the same Yankees package - Hughes, Cabrera and Marquez.

If you think Lester isn't going to pan out, you could make that case, but as of now he's clearly an above average prospect. So is Lowrie. As for Masterson, his peripherals were better than Marquez last year across the board, with both pitching at the Double-A level.

I'm curious, do you also think Ellsbury is a below average prospect? Because the Red Sox are offering a package of with Ellsbury and Lowrie.

Ethan Michaels said...

I'm using "prospect" rather liberally here. Neither Hughes or Lester are truly prospects anymore.

Kevin said...

Masterson had era in both Lancaster and Double-A of 4.00

Marquez was 12-4 with era of 3.51 in Double-A trenton

Marquez throws 93-95 . He's sinker ball pitcher like Wang . He throws sinker,changeup and developing curveball

Ethan Michaels said...

I'm fully aware of what Marquez has done. Nothing about him is all that impressive. He allows more hits than innings pitched, and doesn't strike all that many people out. ERA is a rather poor indicator of a pitcher's ability, especially in the minor leagues where the talent is inconsistent. Most people use peripherals to judge prospects.

And Masterson's peripherals are better than those of Marquez across the board. He allows less hits, less home runs, gives up less walks and strikes more batters out. Masterson's career WHIP is 1.16, Marquez's is 1.38.

Masterson's throws just as hard as Marquez. Like Marquez, Masterson's also a ground ball pitcher, and much better one at that. Marquez put up a ground out to fly out ratio of 1.36 last year in Double-A. Masterson put one up of 3.52, more than two times better at the same level.

kevin said...

Marquez is former first round sandwich pick which Yankees got for losing Fat David Wells when He sign with Padres.

Anonymous said...

Masterson is 3 round pick Ooops..

Ethan Michaels said...

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Andy Pettitte was a 22nd round pick.